10 miles.
I got caught up in a workout with Josh, Greg, and Joe and ended up doing a warmup, then 13 x 1 minute on, 1 minute off, then a cool down. 1 minute on was anywhere from 5:40 to 6:00 pace and 1 minute off was like 6:30 to 7:00s. Humid and hot out. I feel great and recovered.
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I bought an antfarm for my daughter. It took four weeks for the ants to show up. They arrive in a tube that someone actually has to pack and seal with all the appropriate legal documentation. These things are amazing; the ants are all working together as they should and have decided, in a moment of anti-establishment fervor, to kill the farmer and his family in their little green house with their little green tractor and to take all the sand from the 'ground' and take over the farmer's property above ground. I spent 15 minutes watching them do this. I'm that way with nature things which is why I stay clear of nature shows on PBS or Animal Planet; I get sucked into it.
So for all the life going on upstairs, there's death down on my porch; my daughter's friend convinced her to take ownership of five dead sand crabs which were taken, sadly, from the New Jersey shore. They became more dead as they sat outside festering in the 90-degree sun in a sealed tupperware jar for a grave overlooking Mexicans hauling ass on tractors cutting the grass behind McWorld.
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Random, disjointed, boring thoughts about the meaning of life:
-I've written this before: whether you realize it or not, you are going up or coming down; you are either cresting a peak in your racing--in your life too. Or, you are damned to throw yourself at race after race until you finally conclude with your head looking down at the ground, that you are getting older, you've done your best, and that there's always ultras right? We all get to this point in our lives. It's as destined and programmed in our DNA as that little cancer mutation, that we don't know about, that is waiting to explode at some point and take us into the bowels of the earth, despite the yellow Livestrong bracelets that look good with a nice tan and Bristol Myers Squibb's bottom line.
It's going to happen, people.
-Similar to above, we all get to ride a rollercoaster in our racing history. Some of us realize it at young ages, while others of us don't get the fun until we are a bit older. But it's always the same ride--we eat away at PRs in huge chunks and think, with enough caveman shit and good ole' Hollywood tears and Jimmy Chipwood spirit, that we can make it into the zone of greatness and win one for the Gipper.
I struggle daily with this. Am I at the edge of my potential here or can I run faster? Can I keep throwing spirit, intensity, and sweat at this thing? Is the ride slowing down? Is this thing a dartboard and I've thrown one too many shots at 2:36 to make me stop believing in myself?
If I do 50 thousand 800s at MP, will this burn the scrub oak forest to the ground and let the new, sub 2:30 grass take root?
I mean this really is the sole reason why we have running blogs full of me-me doubtings, Oxysox, Gus, racing expos, Bart Yasso and the rest of the cottage industry out to sell you whatever magic beans you need. It's those magic questions that we can't seem to answer for ourselves--that we need someone else to help answer: can I get better? Is this the end of the road? Was that popping noise I just heard my gene mutating? Who says I can't run faster? Fuck them.
Train, train, train. This is the only way to find out. We all have to keep training, keep hammering, keep running harder and harder. The more we don't believe anymore, the more we have to dig into the caveman shit bag and wail away.
I'm also convinced that continual racing will dull the blade. Sharpen the blade, reforge it and use it sparingly. So this is a commitment to try to train more and to race less. My first reaction after this marathon is to fly somewhere cool, tomorrow, and to disprove the times. I would have done this last year.
No.
Keep it real. Train, train, train. Do the right things.
Keep believing in myself, fuck the naysayers and the peanut gallery.
Drive on. It's better to be over the crest and still trying than to give up not knowing that you really could have done it.
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I'm joining a track club. I've concluded that I need people that run 49 minute 10 milers to beat me into the ground and make me feel like shit to get any better. You are only going to get so good at 11pm on a cold street by yourself. The time has come to hand the stick to someone who's always going to be better than myself to beat me with.
Details to follow later.
Wednesday, May 31, 2006
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Duncan, I really believe that you can hit 2:30. Like you said, you need to quit running so many marathons. Focus on a single race in October and go for it. Do more long runs. Do more tempo and marathon pace stuff. Train with the big boys. Keep the high mileage, unless it limits your quality stuff. Taper appropriately. You'll get there.
I came across this in a bookstore today, Steve Prefontaine..
""To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the Gift."
You have the gift and will give it your best, so glad that you are driving on toward the goal, only the best of success to you.
After a somewhat high mileage base of 14-16 wks in the winter and then (loosely) following the hill/speed/anaerobic stuff as prescribed by Lydiard, I am writing PR's (sometimes two) every week it seems. I'm not sure if beating your ass to the ground is the way to go but everyone has their flavor of tea that suits him or her. Some people thrive on high mileage (steve ovett), others speed away on low to moderate amounts (seb coe). I'm not going to offer any advice except to just run. Your body will get to sub 2:30 when it's ready and no sooner. Stick to it. And training with others should definitely help stretch the limits beyond comfort zones. good luck.
"Am I at the edge of my potential here or can I run faster? Can I keep throwing spirit, intensity, and sweat at this thing? Is the ride slowing down? Is this thing a dartboard and I've thrown one too many shots at 2:36 to make me stop believing in myself?"
Good job pointing to the big elephant in the room full of running bloggers, walking over to him and giving him a wedgie. Just replace 2:36 with X:XX and you describe any of us trying our best. I really enjoyed this post. OK, the sand crabs sound kind of nasty but I enjoyed the rest of it.
Running with guys who can do sub-5 pace 10 milers won't necessarily make you feel like shit. Be open to enjoying it. I really miss the days when I could do workouts with groups like that.
Duncan,
The one word that stands out in this post is 'faster'. I can't recall ever reading where you ran w
10 x 200m in 30-32 with full recovery. Wtf? You ask? Running economy my friend. If you can get your body to run a 30 second 200 with smooth form and no flailing you will have gained efficiencies that will carry over to longer distances. Just think of the effect a more economical running motion will have when multiplied by the 23000-ish strides you take during a marathon.
This is outstanding advice that I never considered. Thank you. I will incorporate these shorter intervals into my future training.
To "anonymous" -- how often do the Hansons marathoners, Deena Kastor, Alan Culpepper, and other marathon "specialists" do all-out 200's? Regular (10-12 once a week) alactic striders lasting 20+ seconds are sufficient for a marathoner. They don't have to be done often, but they should be done. However, a marathoner is well-advised to reserve his dives down to Great Lactate Reef for more pertinent sessions, such as overdistance tempos, 5K tune-ups, and long intervals.
Duncan isn't quite yet training like a full-fledged marathoner, but he keeps getting closer. Until he's there I don't think he needs the distraction of something a track "specialist" would favor, at least not until he gets on the nandro-wagon and can recover quickly enough to make four or five quality sessions a week feasible.
Ockham,
I'm not normally an anonymous poster, but my Blackberry comment from the train was 'buggy' and didn't register the blogger ID that I meant to sign in with.
The workout I am suggesting is meant to be done perhaps 3 times over 3 weeks and then that's it. It is also in no way a lactate inducing workout. The key to the workout lies in the phrase "with full recovery". This means walk a lap between 200s, then hang out until you feel reasonably fresh, then go. This is a classic speed workout. It doesn't stress the recovery aspect. It is only to run very fast, rest and then run very fast again. The goal is to improve your running economy. The only way to do that to the fullest extent is to train your body to run really, really fast (you don't even need to do 10-12, 6-8 will suffice). The 30 second figure is just a number. It is effort level that matters. Ideally you would always run the 200s at the limit of 'form control'. As you improve your form the times will drop with the same effort. I agree that striders can accomplish the same thing, but I find most bloggers don't specify just how hard they ran the strides. My guess is that they start, speed up, reach about 80% speed about 50% through and then ease up at the finish. (Plus we know the 'Cave Man' doesn't much care for striders)
If you can run a 200 at 90-95% effort and be able to maintain your form in the final 70 meters, you have achieved running economy.
To relate this to marathons: If you can make 85 second 400 meter pace feel as easy as 87 second pace used to feel, you have achieved running economy.
I am certainly a 'track specialist' but I also know about breaking through a plateau. Duncan is at a plateau so I am simply offering a suggestion that - given proper warmup (I know about hamstrings too)- shouldn't threaten his core training in any way. Joan Nesbit Mabe once mentioned significant gains from a killer 100m workout that a sprint coach gave her, but something that short could put you in pulled muscle territory if you're not used to running near full speed.
Finally, Duncan is a big boy. If he thinks my suggestion is total poop not only will he tell me, but he won't do the workout.
I'll preface this by saying that I agree that improving economy is valuable. But I don't agree on your prioritizing of 200s to achieve this, although your clarifying comment seems to indicate we're not so far apart here.
"The workout I am suggesting is meant to be done perhaps 3 times over 3 weeks and then that's it."
"That's it"? How long until the biomechanical gains wear off?
"It is also in no way a lactate inducing workout. This is a classic speed workout. The goal is to improve your running economy. The only way to do that to the fullest extent is to train your body to run really, really fast. The 30 second figure is just a number. It is effort level that matters ... I agree that striders can accomplish the same thing, but I find most bloggers don't specify just how hard they ran the strides."
So you agree that doing 12 or 16 x 100-meter (or 20-second) fast strides, or striders, or whatever they're called, carries the same advatnages of doing 10 x 200? Because if mechanics are all that matter here, common sense suggests choosing a shorter work interval so as to "guarantee" staving off oxygen debt.
I've done my share of fast 200s, and 30 seconds is cutting it close no matter how long you take for recovery, whereas 20 seconds isn't. All you're ensuring by doing 200s is that you're covering exactly half a lap of an outdoor track. Kinda arbitrary, innit?
As far as bloggers not specifying how fast they do theri strides, well, I guess we'll just have to credit them with having the sense to do as they're instructed. Timing these isn't necessary - if someone whose goal race requires 85 seconds per 400 is doing strides at anything resembling a near-sprint, he's going to be a solid 15 seconds per 400 faster than that while doing strides unless he's shitfaced or intentionally lollygagging.
In addition, if this workout boosts running economy without the drawback of immersing runners' muscles in a low-pH environment, why not incorporate it regularly into any training program instead of just doing it three times in all? To carry this a step further, why not do strides instead of 200s week in and week out all year so as to build *and* preserve economy?
Finally, it's not only erroneous to conclude that Duncan has plateaued (marathons aren't tyrack races, where an individual's times tend to fall into narrower ranges thanks to the lack of terrain variation and other factors, and his recent 10-miler was a good barometer of his fitness), but extremely speculative to assume that 200's are the missing element in his program. He routinely does plenty of 400's well under 70, which is all anyone with his aims needs in terms of short track intervals. If he keeps an eye on marathon-pace runs, tempos, and overall mileage (the latter two being a huge determinant of economy for marathoners), he'll continue to progress and will be in a position to run 2:29 on a good weather day, especially if he's able to find a group to tuck in with.
I've seen a lot of people who tell "stuck" marathoners that what they're missing is pure speed work. Except in the very rare cases in which these runners are completely neglecting all forms of true speed work, this has invariably proven to be off-the-mark, though well-meaning, advice.
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